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Were the source of these 'Karma Credits' you are claiming actually yours to give away?

Tell me, were you the composer, the lyricist or performer; what specific rights were bestowed upon you to make the choice to give away these art forms?

How do you justify your action?


Looking at the Stereolab item for sale it is clear that, although you may have collected Stereolab items for 15 years, you are not a connoisseur.

Record Collectors pay top dollar for Mint items, that it is being suggested that the buyer would solely be interested in the wax and turn a blind eye to the poor condition of the sleeve and still expect to pay the premium price, indicates that you either believe the addage that a fool and their money are easily parted, or you have wholly swallowed the myth surrounding the item.

Were I in the market for a copy then the 200 that are in existence would be sufficient to sustain my levels of patience in waiting for the item because, even at its current bid value, it is grossly overpriced.

I'm wondering whether I should set up a book on the final 'bid winner', I'll bet I'm right.

Oh well, as Cyberpainter says, "sometimes it ends up being a topic of discussion (like it is now)."

~8^)>

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I'm fine with it as well.
Now, if it was someone who only created the account just to spam the board with easily found crap, that would be bad. But rare stuff that Stereolab fans would be interested in is cool, it's not like I'm searching eBay for this stuff every week. However, on the other hand, I don't like competition either... :)

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OK, so far you have accused me of being a thief and an idiot. You ass. I normally don't lose my temper to people like you, but you have gotten personal for no reason. What ownership to you claim on this board that I should be playing by your rules. Obviously you are in the minority with your opinion (no posts have yet to share it). I am a member of a record collector board and floated the situation for feedback there and they all felt that being a long standing member of a forum it certainly would be OK to post an item for sale.

And now I'll bite on your accusations, first, on your point of permission. First of all everything I shared was free. Not only did I have permission for the recording of the shows that I recorded but permission to do the project. I spent two years collecting material, editing and collaborating on the project. 10 copies were sent to the management and 5 were taken to Mary's family after her passing.

Secondly, while the sleeve of this record has a slight crease in it, the vinyl is in (unplayed!) mint condition. I am not suggesting that anyone pay "top dollar" nor "premium price" for it. I am expecting that ebay will fetch a fair market value for it. And the next time you are selling something, please make sure you sell it for half of what it is worth so you don't feel like a hypocrite. I for one (I am guessing I'd have support on this one) would like to get as much as possible for things I am selling. If someone bids 800 pounds for it, I will not feel bad in the least selling it to them.

So you keep your opinion, and wait for another one to come to market (If you were "in the market for a copy") and let me know what you pay for it when it comes up again (never).

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it's a stereolab record and this is a stereolab message board. it seems perfectly OK to 'advertise' on here. i have never seen that record on Ebay either so i'm excited to have a look. yes it's expensive but it's limited to 200 copies, unplayed. and anyone who buys it is doing it consciously, not against their will. if they wanna pay that much then let them. i wish i could! lol

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In whatever format I have my Stereolab music, I do not sell it. I don't buy to sell and I don't sell to buy. Never have, never will. I buy it because, mostly, I love it.
That I love, I keep.

Although I don't like to use the word 'fan', for me the word sits uncomfortably with what I feel Stereolab are about, I suppose that that is what I am. I have a great deal to thank the groop for, not least rekindling my waned interest in music when they 'fledged', so to speak.

The Stunning Debut Album Multicoloured vinyl 7" single for sale is one of a supposed 200 in the world.

Minus the one on Ebay, that leaves 199 copies. Let's say that 3 may have been lost in fires (forbid) and even if some copies have been stolen then at least the thief owns them.

The notion that a copy has been thrown at an unfaithful boyfriend or girlfriend, it has missed, and drifted through the window of an apartment overlooking the Seine, to be lost forever in the river's murky depths, is a romantic one, but unlikely.

So, let's say there are 197 copies. Has anyone here lined up 200 7" singles? That's a lot of copies, even if they are distributed around the globe.

Now, let's look at the 'myth'.

It's interesting, the Multicoloured vinyl copies are actually the FIRST PRESSING.

Why don't most people pick up on that?

The myth clearly states that the single was pressed on Multicoloured vinyl - no mention of clear vinyl - but, because the colour was wrong and it had a warp (where? I've seen more warp in the first 5 minutes of a Star Trek episode), '200 copies were taken by a friend to France and THE REST WERE DESTROYED'.

So, bearing in mind that a further 985 copies were pressed on clear vinyl (which would then make that the SECOND PRESSING), does that mean that 985 copies of the FIRST PRESSING were done on Multicoloured vinyl? Does that mean that 785 Multicoloured copies were "DESTROYED", or were there fewer than that, why don't people pick up on that?

Anyway, as for the rest of your response to what you think I've 'accused' you of, there is always the forum's search option to check out previous posts and jog your memory, I'm going to finish by taking the liberty of quoting one of the forum's other users, Eddie Chargeman, posted under the Stereolab Ringtone Options (hope you don't mind EC)...



Perfect.

RevASS.

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Revox,

I took your advice and searched your posts.

You often come across as an "I know more than you, you should learn from me" ass.

You might not in fact be an ass, it just appears that way in some of your writing.

Will you tell me if I am right: you are male, live in America, travel internationally infrequently, republican (conservative), and live in a red state?

Please don't accuse me of stereotyping, I am just truly curious.

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Now it is all about the love of the music, so buying and selling music is sacrilegious?

Remember, your original opposition was that I posted the item on this board and that it was in fact not rare as described.

To quote you: "I wouldn't have a problem if you, or anyone else unrelated to its sale, had posted the link." and suggested that Martin should charge those who post items they are selling here.

I guess you were lying, you did have other problems. When you realized no one was agreeing with you, an apology might have been in order, instead:

It became, I gave away something I did not have permission to give away (wrong) and that the item was "grossly overpriced" and not in fact rare.

Lastly, it got romantic about what music means to the soul and how holy you were because you don't buy music to sell. Then on into the (your) myth of the rarity of this item. A quote from Eddie Chargeman (do you read his posts!?)

Then revASS. HUH?

Cheers, good luck with all of that.

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It's a lot worse than that - I think he's ENGLISH

*gasp*

hehe ;)

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Viva Scotland!

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As a Stereolab lover, I'm discouraged when some of the items go for so much money, leaving someone like me without the remote possibility of acquiring some things. However I do think the way Stereolab has marketed their vinyl all these years is as a concept of them being collector items. And collectors like to buy and sell, it's great for them when they can acquire something. I think revox is full of it. But I also think maybe the item is overpriced. But if it's what the market will tolerate, then so be it.