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Martian
Martian
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Oct 10, 2009, 18:03


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hito
hito
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Re: Plastic Surgery: Please Help Me Understand

Plastic surgery is one of the saddest "technological advances" of humanity. It is frightening to see how normal it is these days. Boob jobs are considered better than real boobs by some and kooks stretch their face to avoid being a granny. Vanity really is a sin...

Jan 31, 2010, 12:20


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GaryB
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Re: Plastic Surgery: Please Help Me Understand

Some people have terrible hang-ups about certain bodyparts/features and a successful op can transform lives.

A lady in my work had her eyelids done last year. A few millimetres of skin removed and she is a new woman. Not physically, but mentally. It has been very positive for her. Cost her £2500 though - eek!

And to be honest, if it was cheap enough and guaranteed risk-free, us dudes would all have an inch or two added to our manhoods. Guaran-fuckin'-teed!

:)

Jan 31, 2010, 12:40


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waxenpith
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Lets not forget plastic surgery has had some positive affects on severely deformed people and burn victims.

It's not all pure vanity. some surgeries are just to look normal.

when i was a child my face was ripped off by a German shepherd. Had it not been for some mild plastic surgery i would likely have become very reclusive. I'd have to face (pardon the pun) people and explain my past every day everywhere i went.

another example being Mastectomies. you cant blame a woman who has had her breast lobbed off cuz of cancer for wanting an implant so she can feel normal again. or dare i say it feel sexy.

Jan 31, 2010, 16:54


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cyberpainter
cyberpainter
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Re: Plastic Surgery: Please Help Me Understand

I don't see anything wrong with it. So people change themselves, so what? Who cares? I do think sexism is still around, and women should rise above the stereotypes. But no one wants to get old, and if you want to be in the dating scene as an older woman it can be very difficult in our society. Going to obsessive extremes with it though and botched jobs is another story.

Jan 31, 2010, 23:11


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JS
JS
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Re: Plastic Surgery: Please Help Me Understand

One weird case of plastic surgery gone wrong is the French twin physicists Igor and Grichka Bogdanov:

http://multimedia.fnac.com/multimedia/images_produits/ZoomPE/2/2/3/9782081208322.jpg

Jan 31, 2010, 23:13


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cyberpainter
cyberpainter
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Re: Plastic Surgery: Please Help Me Understand

Martian wrote:


Many of those photos are just distorted pictures, can't you tell that?

Jan 31, 2010, 23:15


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hito
hito
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Re: Plastic Surgery: Please Help Me Understand

I agree that plastic surgery can at times be important to help someone avoid questions and discomfort and salvage appearance after a trauma.

I disagree with women doing it to feel good or look "better". I think a lady with wrinkles looks better than one whose face looks under strain from strethching and has all the unique features hacked away to look like a doll. I would rather a woman had a big nose than a silly little button made by a surgeon.

Moreover, my point was especially about the negative effects where males now actually long for the "perfection" of fake boobs or think a featureless face with peroxide hair is better than a person who looks natural. I think the idealisation of collagen lips, baseball boobs and white hair exemplified in Pamela Anderson has done women and girls across the world a major disservice. I think plastic surgery actually isn't just a case of "who cares?" but actually something that ruins life for everybody, like advertisements.

Finally Gary, I am happy with what I've got and the thought of someone going there with a knife is a double disincentive :)

Actually finally, this was a good thread to dig up.

Feb 02, 2010, 07:24


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s_lush_s
s_lush_s
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Re: Plastic Surgery: Please Help Me Understand

sometimes it is medically necessary. I've seen some kick ass plastic surgery. sewing someones hand to their stomach for 8 weeks so it will regrow skin. plastic surgery is BAD ASS, fucking A

Feb 02, 2010, 10:11


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mirtchevman
mirtchevman
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cyberpainter wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with it. So people change themselves, so what? Who cares? I do think sexism is still around, and women should rise above the stereotypes. But no one wants to get old, and if you want to be in the dating scene as an older woman it can be very difficult in our society. Going to obsessive extremes with it though and botched jobs is another story.


plastic surgery is a weak attempt at trying to escape the inevitable.

it's true, no one wants to get old. but we do get old. we're supposed to. there even used to be a great deal of value attached to that fact -- the wisdom and experience that could be sounded down from an older generation to the next one was serious business. but with the schism that's occurred within the western family structure, our rapidly decreasing interest in history, and with so much uncertainty about our future as a civilization, all that value has been lost. so we try to waylay getting old, not only because it makes us wrinkled and saggy but also because getting old means being relegated to the fringes of society, tucked away in a home where you wait out your remaining years among strangers and apathetic nurses who make minimum wage...

this is much bigger than a sexism issue -- men and women alike have to contend with it.

i swear, this life is becoming more and more like a kurt vonnegut novel everyday...

Feb 02, 2010, 16:00

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