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Martian
Martian
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Re: The State of the Union

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100024086/state-of-the-union-obama-gets-an-f-for-world-leadership/

From the Telegraph UK

By Nile Gardiner January 28th, 2010



As expected, Barack Obama’s 70 minute State of the Union address focused heavily on the economy and the domestic political agenda. This was hardly surprising in the aftermath of last week’s catastrophic defeat for his party in the Massachusetts special Senate election, where the Republicans scored an historic victory.. American voters are turning strongly against the president’s health care reform package as well as his big government vision for the economy, which has contributed to spiraling public debt and mounting unemployment, now standing at over 10 percent.



But the scant attention paid in the State of the Union speech to US leadership was pitiful and frankly rather pathetic. The war in Afghanistan , which will soon involve a hundred thousand American troops, merited barely a paragraph. There was no mention of victory over the enemy, just a reiteration of the president’s pledge to begin a withdrawal in July 2011. Needless to say there was nothing in the speech about the importance of international alliances, and no recognition whatsoever of the sacrifices made by Great Britain and other NATO allies alongside the United States on the battlefields of Afghanistan . For Barack Obama the Special Relationship means nothing, and tonight’s address further confirmed this.



Significantly, the global war against al-Qaeda was hardly mentioned, and there were no measures outlined to enhance US security at a time of mounting threats from Islamist terrorists. Terrorism is a top issue for American voters, but President Obama displayed what can only be described as a stunning indifference towards the defence of the homeland.

The Iranian nuclear threat, likely to be the biggest foreign policy issue of 2010, was given just two lines in the speech, with a half-hearted warning of “growing consequences” for Tehran, with no details given at all. There were no words of support for Iranian protestors who have been murdered, tortured and beaten in large numbers by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s thuggish security forces, and no sign at all that the president cared about their plight. Nor was there any condemnation of the brutality of the Iranian regime, as well as its blatant sponsorship of terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan .



As the example of Iran showed, the advance of freedom and liberty across the world in the face of tyranny was not even a footnote in the president’s speech. I cannot think of a US president in modern times who has attached less importance to human rights issues. For the hundreds of millions of people across the world, from Burma to Sudan to Zimbabwe , clamouring to be free of oppression, there was not a shred of hope offered in Barack Obama’s address.



Obama’s world leadership in his first year in office has been weak-kneed and little short of disastrous. He has sacrificed the projection of American power upon the altar of political vanity, with empty speeches and groveling apologies across the world, from Strasbourg to Cairo . He has appeased some of America ’s worst enemies, and has extended the hand of friendship to many of the most odious regimes on the face of the earth. Judging by the State of the Union address tonight, we can expect more of the same from an American president who seems determined to lead the world’s greatest power along a path of decline.

Feb 03, 2010, 19:29


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mirtchevman
mirtchevman
1725 posts

Re: The State of the Union

the state of the union, indeed.



Feb 03, 2010, 20:09


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wracket
wracket
1427 posts

Re: The State of the Union

Martian wrote:
...we can expect more of the same from an American president who seems determined to lead the world’s greatest power along a path of decline.


Hate to break this to you or Nile, but the US has been on a path of decline for a while. The Obama presidency was doomed from the start. I can't really blame him if he ends up playing violin...

Feb 03, 2010, 20:17


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s_lush_s
s_lush_s
7383 posts

Re: The State of the Union

yay! politics, the theatre. sometimes I enjoy a good show. I wonder what politics will be performing tonight? politics sometimes writes their own material. politics has a great sense of humor. I love politics. It's one of the best comedic troupes around.
It's nice that you guys enjoy the theatre as much as I do!

Feb 03, 2010, 23:13


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s_lush_s
s_lush_s
7383 posts

Re: The State of the Union

That's great that you guys have hope for politics. I love politics, too. Those guys are so hysterical. Having a predetermined belief system is recommended for mental hygiene.

Feb 03, 2010, 23:17


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Bytor Peltor
Bytor Peltor
165 posts

Re: The State of the Union

Jasonspaceman wrote:
Martian wrote:
Amazing what a talented bunch of speechwriters, a teleprompter, and a talented orator can do.

Cybele


Bush had speechwriters and his delivery could have been done better by a 4th grader.


You are so correct about Bush and a 4th grader. Odd thing is, Obama has done little to change what Bush set into motion during his eight years. After one year in office, Gitmo is still up and running and our troops are nowhere close to coming home. It's nice that Obama has called for a "freeze" on federal spending. What most fail to realize is most federal budgets were doubled / tripled in size his first year in office so calling for a "freeze" isn't really as his administration makes it appear.

IF (and it's a big IF) Obama doesn't complete some of his promises made during the election and if Republicans win more spots in November (see Massachusetts two weeks ago), the Democratic Party will become so disenfranchised with Obama that he won't even run for re-election!

Feb 04, 2010, 01:59


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cyberpainter
cyberpainter
5940 posts

Re: The State of the Union

Boo hoo Cybele, Obama focused on the domestic agenda in his speech. So that must mean he has nothing at all going on internationally because he didn't talk about warmongering and all the evil in the world in his speech.

Bush was so completely transparent in his manipulation of sentiment, fear, and prejudice to keep his numbers up. It's what people are accustomed to now.

Feb 04, 2010, 04:16


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Eddie Chargeman
Eddie Chargeman
1576 posts

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And all without a hint of negro dialect ! Isn't that amazing?!? No Uncle Remis for him ! No Gullah- it's amazing! I've never seen anyone do that before...
Orator Scmorator- can he and will he govern?
If I believed in the ancient science/ entertainment of politics that's what I would ask.
Yippy Yippy you made a great speech! Look at the illustrious careers you've provided to opinion based television journalists!! The whole world is going to change.

Feb 04, 2010, 04:40


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Labhead
Labhead
1868 posts

Re: debt, budgets, when Obama's policies take affect, compounding interest

Bytor Peltor wrote:
You are so correct about Bush and a 4th grader. Odd thing is, Obama has done little to change what Bush set into motion during his eight years. After one year in office, Gitmo is still up and running and our troops are nowhere close to coming home. It's nice that Obama has called for a "freeze" on federal spending. What most fail to realize is most federal budgets were doubled / tripled in size his first year in office so calling for a "freeze" isn't really as his administration makes it appear.


Here's what people don't realize: Bush left us in a HUGE hole of debt (he left us with around 3.7 trillion in annual actual spending in his last year), and Obama's policies take a while to kick in. His policies weren't immediately put into effect upon being sworn in, it takes time to re-write law, etc, the legal way. Obama's budget only increases that amount up to 3.83 trillion projected for next year and don't forget he's been dealing with 2 wars he was handed, one of them illegal/unneccessary which Obama's pulling out of by August of this year. Ever hear of compounding interest? When you're in a huge hole of debt, you're paying a massive amount on interest (and maybe penalties or loss of dollar value which started big-time under Bush). Starting to get the picture?

I knew even before the election that the next president was screwed, and maybe impossible to save America. Obama's one guy, doing the best anybody could probably do. In about 1/4 of the time, he's completed about 1/4 of his campaign promises, and that ain't bad.

Bush was the biggest spender since LBJ:


Feb 04, 2010, 04:40


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Labhead
Labhead
1868 posts

Re: debt, budgets, when Obama's policies take affect, compounding interest

I guess to answer these criticisms of Obama, he should just go the alternate route and..

1) 100% pull all troops out of both wars immediately tomorrow with no planning (like how Bush had no planning before his little invasion)...

2) Become a dictator. just because he's facing obstructionism from Lieberman & some others (&now the dude from Mass.) is no reason to not get things done, right? I guess we want a dictator like Bush again from what I'm hearing.

3) Give the rest of the world the finger like Bush and make everybody hate us again, increasing terrorism as what happened under Bush.

4) Not keep up his perfect record thus far of no successful terrorist attacks in America. Hey, Bush only kept us safe for about 9 months... Obama's kept us safe for longer than that so far, right? :)

5) Freeze all gov't spending like McCain's sledgehammer plan (instead of Obama's scapel plan) and bring us into a worse depression. They projected many more job losses, and Obama's stimulous, etc, so far has kept the job loss from being twice as bad as what already started under Bush.

Let's go back to the last 8 years of failed republican policies that caused this problem, is that what you righties want, just so you can try to outlaw abortion or force other religious stuff down our throats? Or is it that you feel the rich just aren't quite rich enough and the poor aren't poor enough?

Feb 04, 2010, 04:52

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