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mirtchevman 1452 posts |
'Men at Work will have to pay an Australian music publishing company 40 to 60 percent of their earnings from their 1983 song "Down Under." A judge in Sydney's Federal Court found the band guilty of illegally sampling the flute solo from the children's song "The Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree" on their hit. Just how much Men at Work will need to pay Larrkin Music Publishers will be determined at a hearing next week.' - ContactMusic.com ............................................... Re: men @ work - plagiarists? (Cheeso) Re: men @ work - plagiarists? (deadlyfingers) Re: men @ work - plagiarists? (cyberpainter) Re: men @ work - plagiarists? (Eddie Chargeman) |
Feb 05, 2010, 02:02
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Cheeso 622 posts |
they should pay stingk for stealing his vocal style too |
Feb 05, 2010, 02:27
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deadlyfingers 729 posts |
That's awesome. I love how it took someone 27 years to notice the similarity between two of the most recognizable songs ever. It sets a great legal precedent, though: I think every musician ever should have to pay half their earnings to the estates of all the millions of dead musicians who came before them. |
Feb 05, 2010, 05:37
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matthew6 672 posts |
I have no fucking clue where the plagiarism is?? What the hell???
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Feb 05, 2010, 17:30
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wracket 1201 posts |
I knew where it was right away...haven't even listened to the clip. Never thought of it before this though, admittedly...
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Feb 05, 2010, 19:03
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cyberpainter 3416 posts |
Funny, I play Kookaburra all the time on a cd for the kid I take care of. Nice song for rounds. Just saying...
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Feb 06, 2010, 09:31
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Eddie Chargeman 1207 posts |
yeah, I agree with deadly fingers. Also, isn't this a folk song? couldn't they have hired someone to play the flute? I hope the writers of OH SUSANNAH don't come to avenge me. I think this is a little crazy, somebody trying to make a profit unless they indeed did sample from the other artist. Why did it take thirty years?
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Feb 06, 2010, 16:53
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Eddie Chargeman 1207 posts |
poor old Victor needs the money |
Feb 06, 2010, 16:57
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calapia 197 posts |
Ridiculous...there's is no way near enough for that to be plagiarism. I think it comes down to the idea of "former art," in that melodies like that are so common that you can't claim copyright on any of them. Apart from that, the melody, and rhythm don't follow the same arc.
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Feb 06, 2010, 20:30
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wracket 1201 posts |
Well, it's pretty clear that the second and fourth bars of the flute solo are lifted directly from that song (it's less evident in the crappy choral versions in that Aussie news report, but I had a music teacher as a child who loved this damn song, so I know all about the ol' gum tree), but I feel it's quite incidental and in no way justifies the payment of royalties of any kind, let alone 60%?!
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Feb 06, 2010, 20:53
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