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jorbel
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Re: All killer, no filler

meanchico wrote:
Margerine Eclipse and Instant O were excluded since these were mostly composed prior to Mary's unfortunate death.


Really? I thought they were totally post-Mary.

Nov 11, 2010, 16:56


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meanchico
meanchico
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Re: All killer, no filler

they were released after her passing, but mostly recorded prior to it. if I'm remembering correctly I think they were just about to record all the vocals at the time of the accident. Laetitia had to sing all the parts written for Mary.

Nov 11, 2010, 17:02


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jorbel
330 posts

Re: All killer, no filler

jauntymonty wrote:
I think these are some stand-outs of the post-Mary era:

Instant O in the Universe--JM&the Bubbles of Silence
Margerine Eclipse--Bop Scotch, La Demeure, Dear Marge
Fab4Suture--Excursions into 'oh,a-oh', Eye of the Volcano
CC--Pop Molecule, Cellulose Sunshine


Since my introduction to Stereolab in 2008 and during my evolution of listening to the groop it has always been difficult to pick favorites as I like most every song. After extensive exposure to all of their albums now and after some brief reflective periods while not listening to Stereolab, I now find that I tend to gravitate to the ETK through S-D era, OOTAS and the ABC radio sessions. It is rare that I listen to anything else released after S-D.
Regarding Mary, as with any team whether it be in sports or music or at the workplace, the whole reflects the combined input of all team members. We are not certain exactly what that input was, but I do not believe that Tim & Laetitia called all the shots and the other team members just stood and performed their assigned tasks.
What I see missing in the post-Mary era is a certain soulfulness , that is, that misty quality where you feel like you are on a mind journey while listening to the music. Dots and Loops and Sound-Dust really has this quality and I love it so much. Stereolab music since then is like Tim mechanically and creatively putting together pieces of music, but without the soulfulness, but.. good for dancing!



Just wanted to say I love the way you see it. I don't agree since I always perceive an interplay of soulfulness and soulflessness in the groops' music, but I love it anyway. It all sounds very much like architecture to me.

Nov 11, 2010, 17:04


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jorbel
330 posts

Re: All killer, no filler

meanchico wrote:
they were released after her passing, but mostly recorded prior to it. if I'm remembering correctly I think they were just about to record all the vocals at the time of the accident. Laetitia had to sing all the parts written for Mary.


REALLY? I'm shocked! So the dual mono recording paying homage to Mary, which is even more clear if you listen to the separate channels, makes even more sense...

Sometimes I just don't believe that Mary is no more. This is maybe also because for a long time I didn't pay attention to the groop members photos, and so I was convinced that the main singer was Mary, not Laetitia.

Nov 11, 2010, 17:15


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jorbel
330 posts

Re: All killer, no filler

the killer/filler thing just doesn't work for me regarding this particular band corpus

Nov 11, 2010, 17:17


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Stereo Mouse
Stereo Mouse
635 posts

Re: All killer, no filler

jorbel wrote:
meanchico wrote:
they were released after her passing, but mostly recorded prior to it. if I'm remembering correctly I think they were just about to record all the vocals at the time of the accident. Laetitia had to sing all the parts written for Mary.


REALLY? I'm shocked! So the dual mono recording paying homage to Mary, which is even more clear if you listen to the separate channels, makes even more sense...

Sometimes I just don't believe that Mary is no more. This is maybe also because for a long time I didn't pay attention to the groop members photos, and so I was convinced that the main singer was Mary, not Laetitia.


False, false about this whole "recorded prior" thing. I still remember the old forum and Martin was kind enough to dedicate us in the details. In late February 2003 he reported about starting the sessions with rhythm tracks. Then subsequently guitars, keys etc and eventually vocals. So no, nothing on ME is recorded before 9 December 2002. Several months after. :)

Nov 11, 2010, 17:39


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Stereo Mouse
Stereo Mouse
635 posts

Re: All killer, no filler

Let's see:

1. Rose My Rocket Brain (2004 tour single) - a great epic track with return to rock and guitar styles characteristic of their earlier work, considering the mellowness of their previous albums. But of course, whether you think this song is really epic and grand or just "eh" depends on your opinion of the more guitar-based end of Stereolab's music. I say, rock on, Tim!

2. Sudden Stars (I0itU/ME) - Stereolab goes on even without Mary and does it so beautifully! It's a nice blend of early and mid-period Lab styles and again, a little bit more guitar in the mix, esp. the delicious kraut-interlude in the middle. I was psyched when I first heard this song and still one of their best songs, not just post-Mary.

3. Jaunty Monty and the Bubbles (I0itU) - It's another great example how a band struck by tragedy rebounds! After recording a rather morose and downbeat "Sound Dust" album, they immediately return with more uptempo groovy material despite losing a key member and a dear friend. Great groove in there.

4. Kyberneticka Babycka (Fab Four Suture) - I think I can sort of see why some people think post-Mary Lab is underwhelming: the music they'd since been recording has not been quite as experimental as previous works had been. It's more pop really. This two-part composition from otherwise mediocre FFS semi-compilation is an exception: Brian Wilson goes Koyaanisqatsi? ;)

5. Whisper Pitch (FFS) - one of their finest slow songs, it's got a genuinely touching sad melody to it and Laetitia never fails to come up with her trademark warm humanistic compassion.

6. Pop Molecule (CC) - Stereolab delivers an uncharacteristically fuzzy psych-instrumental, obviously influenced by Pierre Henry's legendary "Psyche Rock", but not a rip-off nor anything. I wish there was more material like this, cause I really dig this entire psych angle. Obviously I'm quite a hippie.

7. Vortical Phonotheque (CC) - you should like it, it's very Sound Dust-esque. Also reminding me of Beatles a tad.

8. The Nth Degree (CC bonus track) - One of the Groop's finest disco-groove based tracks. Great vibraphone and do I detect a quote from "Fluorescences" here and there? ;)

9. "So Is Cardboard Clouds" (Not Music) - This is quite a complex piece actually, especially in terms of instrumentation, love the hypnotic piano and the floating organ especially. And the ending is quite epic in the "Kyberneticka Babycka" way!

10. "Delugeoisie" (NM, please forgive me the possibly incorrect spelling) - You should pay attention to the structure of this piece, which is like a miniature version of "Gus the Mynah Bird": a short Reich-esque intro first, followed by mysterious waltz song, ending with underwater ambiance in the instrumentation and overall sound.

So there you go! Whether you like any of my suggested pieces, but at least as you can see, I put a lot of effort into the list. :)

Nov 11, 2010, 18:05


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Kazak
Kazak
1618 posts

Re: All killer, no filler

I guess I just don't get the need to do this for you. There's not even that much material. Go listen to it. *shrug*

Nov 11, 2010, 18:42


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meanchico
meanchico
2696 posts

Re: All killer, no filler

ahhhh.....I stand corrected!

Nov 11, 2010, 19:05


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jauntymonty
jauntymonty
1623 posts

Re: All killer, no filler

jorbel wrote:
jauntymonty wrote:
I think these are some stand-outs of the post-Mary era:

Instant O in the Universe--JM&the Bubbles of Silence
Margerine Eclipse--Bop Scotch, La Demeure, Dear Marge
Fab4Suture--Excursions into 'oh,a-oh', Eye of the Volcano
CC--Pop Molecule, Cellulose Sunshine


Since my introduction to Stereolab in 2008 and during my evolution of listening to the groop it has always been difficult to pick favorites as I like most every song. After extensive exposure to all of their albums now and after some brief reflective periods while not listening to Stereolab, I now find that I tend to gravitate to the ETK through S-D era, OOTAS and the ABC radio sessions. It is rare that I listen to anything else released after S-D.
Regarding Mary, as with any team whether it be in sports or music or at the workplace, the whole reflects the combined input of all team members. We are not certain exactly what that input was, but I do not believe that Tim & Laetitia called all the shots and the other team members just stood and performed their assigned tasks.
What I see missing in the post-Mary era is a certain soulfulness , that is, that misty quality where you feel like you are on a mind journey while listening to the music. Dots and Loops and Sound-Dust really has this quality and I love it so much. Stereolab music since then is like Tim mechanically and creatively putting together pieces of music, but without the soulfulness, but.. good for dancing!



Just wanted to say I love the way you see it. I don't agree since I always perceive an interplay of soulfulness and soulflessness in the groops' music, but I love it anyway. It all sounds very much like architecture to me.


Thanks.
Actually I agree with that. My comments here are somewhat condensed due to time restraints.
Architecture, yes..as the bass and percussion provide a deep solid foundation. The repetitive strokes being the structural colonnade denoting a long sequence of columnnotes joined by their entablature. The melody of the musical instruments, each one a brightly colored energy filled conduit meandering high and low through the structure. The resulting wall of sound forms a fašade of multicolored crystal glazing, not clear, (reference to Laetitia lyrics) but translucent providing just glimpse of the real meaning. You forgot your boots, so, I will stop here.

Nov 11, 2010, 20:57

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