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wangjiwei
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Re: Radiation.

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Apr 25, 2011, 06:53


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wracket
wracket
1425 posts

Re: Radiation.

wangjiwei wrote:
you may also wondering, since there are so many styles about the red wedding dresses ,then where can we go and get one for ourselves? Here comes the great news. Our online store GoodGoodsChina now is providing a new series of wedding dresses among which red wedding dresses are the most popular choice of our customers .I am sure you will find you like. Just search patiently.
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SBJ, this is the best point made so far.

Apr 25, 2011, 08:32


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Harold Bissonette
Harold Bissonette
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wracket wrote:
wangjiwei wrote:
you may also wondering, since there are so many styles about the red wedding dresses ,then where can we go and get one for ourselves? Here comes the great news. Our online store GoodGoodsChina now is providing a new series of wedding dresses among which red wedding dresses are the most popular choice of our customers .I am sure you will find you like. Just search patiently.
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SBJ, this is the best point made so far.


I've ordered my dress - can't wait, it looks gorgeous!

Apr 25, 2011, 09:08


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wracket
wracket
1425 posts

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hito wrote:
Given that, nuclear accidents will continue to happen (if anyone wishes to raise the idea that the USSR was communist; it wasn't. It was a dictatorship with many monopolistic businesses. For proof, check the number of millionaires post "communism").

The USSR obviously never achieved anything like communism is the purest sense, but the number of millionaires/billionaires post-perestroika has nothing to do with how the USSR was run. It has everything to do with how the privatization of state industry was carried out (under the watchful eye of guys like Anatoly Chubais, who would take a political slap on the wrist but then rise up to claim some of the top corporate slots for himself, of course) and how the desperate and uninformed populace was duped into giving up their equity in these state industries for a tiny fraction of its already deflated face value.

hito wrote:
It is no good pointing the finger at businesses that cut corners as that is what will always happen. If businesses (even one) cannot be trusted then there should be no nuclear energy.

Yes, businesses do tend to look to maximize profits. That's why for so many industries, with nuclear perhaps at the top of the list, it is important that we give a true economic incentive to the private sector to conform. We should never "trust" any private company when the results of that private company's mishaps could impact others (even their own employees).

hito wrote:
2. Nuclear waste is bad news. The plants themselves are a hazard when it comes to disposal. The waste from production is frightening. The waste from uranium mining is terrible. How bad is debatable but only between hideous and horrendous. It is not remotely safe.

Nuclear waste is potentially very bad news indeed, which is why we have to address this aspect. If we can't, well then maybe nuclear energy just isn't a viable option. But we have not fully explored the possible solutions, so to do so based on this alone would be premature.

As for uranium mining, yes, it is potentially very problematic for the surrounding area indeed. But here's a dirty little secret--nearly all mining is just as dangerous as uranium mining. And I'm not just talking about walls collapsing and that kind of danger, as the very kind of waste you are talking about (radioactive mill tailings) is produced is comparable amounts in gold mining, copper mining, chromium mining (just to name a few). So again, this goes more to the urgent need to rethink our entire way of regulating the mining industry (particularly in placed like Africa, where there is virtually no regulation) than as a condemnation of the nuclear power supply chain.

hito wrote:
3. Comparing nuclear accidents to car crashes, cyclones, storms, even oil spills is a bit rich. Nuclear waste lasts for hundreds of years and kills those that try to clean it up.

If you are referring to my post in response to cyberpainter, I'm afraid you missed the point. I was asked what I would do it warned of a fallout in my area. I said I would leave. (As I would if I were warned of a hurricane, etc.) And I acknowledged that not everyone in that area would be as able to just pick up and leave as I would.

hito wrote:
4. There are many vested interests in this matter. I always oppose dishonest debate whether it be for the side I support or not. Unfortunately, in western society, liars are often allowed to spout lies and have their views published. I would hazard at a guess to say that 95% of the lies that are disembled and supported are backed by big business dollars. I assume HC exaggerates to compete with this financial might and I sadly think that only weakens the anti-nuke case. Nonethless, I understand why she does it in a world of lies.

Does the ubiquitous presence of lies and liars among mean we should stop seeking the truth? Of course not. Does it mean one should result to lying to counteract the lies which are being spouted in disservice to one's personal interests? I should hope not (but maybe I'm naive).

If big business is infused with our political structure and our media (and I'm convinced it is), does that mean that there can be no more public discourse through the traditional means? Has our potential to exist as individuals and control our own destinies been manipulated beyond the point of no return? Are we sheep just obediently rounding the bend, hoping a corporate nail gun doesn't await us on the other side? Is there any point in going on? Should we just end it all here and now, for SBJ's sake, give me the gun, give me the fucking gun, I'm going to take a few of those ominous suits out with me!?

Er, that's one path. Another path is to admit that there are a lot of people trying to distort reality and, in this age of information noise, it is harder than ever to make sense of it all. But let's try to at the very least demand the scientific method of our scientists, to ask reasonable and level-headed questions when the answers we've been given don't seem to add up (and to educate ourselves sufficiently so that we're capable of the basic addition to begin with), shall we?

Apr 25, 2011, 09:32


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wracket
wracket
1425 posts

Re: Radiation.

Harold Bissonette wrote:
wracket wrote:
wangjiwei wrote:
you may also wondering, since there are so many styles about the red wedding dresses ,then where can we go and get one for ourselves? Here comes the great news. Our online store GoodGoodsChina now is providing a new series of wedding dresses among which red wedding dresses are the most popular choice of our customers .I am sure you will find you like. Just search patiently.
party dresses


SBJ, this is the best point made so far.


I've ordered my dress - can't wait, it looks gorgeous!


Chris de Burgh is the only man who can save us from global warming, nuclear holocaust and the lack of opportunities to slow dance with our date.

Apr 25, 2011, 09:36


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Mu Mu
Mu Mu
2778 posts

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wangjiwei wrote:
...there are so many styles about the red wedding dresses.. a new series of wedding dresses among which red wedding dresses


You might want to think about offering a white/off-white wedding dress, in my limited experience, they seem to be very popular.

Apr 25, 2011, 13:16


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labadore
labadore
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Burying the radioactive waste underground or at the bottom of the oceans with a decay rate of anywhere from10,000 to a million years, depending on the particular isotopes, would likewise require a society to remain stable for those periods of time in order to remember where the radioactive waste is. Society has never been stable for such a period of time in terms of record keeping or otherwise. Ultimately, this buried deadly treasure would end up being discovered by unknowing excavators or deep sea explorers. I say if you cannot safely launch the radioactive waste into the sun then do not burden our planet with it to begin with.

Apr 25, 2011, 14:12


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cyberpainter
cyberpainter
5915 posts

Re: Radiation.

wangjiwei wrote:
you may also wondering, since there are so many styles about the red wedding dresses ,then where can we go and get one for ourselves? Here comes the great news. Our online store GoodGoodsChina now is providing a new series of wedding dresses among which red wedding dresses are the most popular choice of our customers .I am sure you will find you like. Just search patiently.
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How did you know we wanted a radioactive themed dress to go with this thread??

Apr 25, 2011, 18:41


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cyberpainter
cyberpainter
5915 posts

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wracket wrote:

Nuclear waste is potentially very bad news indeed, which is why we have to address this aspect. If we can't, well then maybe nuclear energy just isn't a viable option. But we have not fully explored the possible solutions, so to do so based on this alone would be premature.

I think the time to find solutions to the waste problem, which isn't "potentially" very bad news, it IS bad news as of now... was before the first plant was put into production. To create something with lethal waste that lasts thousands, up to a million years depending on the fuel, with no disposal solution in sight, was and is unbelievably foolhardy.

Apr 25, 2011, 18:47


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wracket
wracket
1425 posts

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cyberpainter wrote:

I think the time to find solutions to the waste problem, which isn't "potentially" very bad news, it IS bad news as of now... was before the first plant was put into production. To create something with lethal waste that lasts thousands, up to a million years depending on the fuel, with no disposal solution in sight, was and is unbelievably foolhardy.

OK, but I struggle to see the relevance of this point to the question of whether or not to use nuclear energy in the future.

Does the fact that historically a lot of crops were cultivated exclusively via the exploitation of slaves mean that we should not today eat bananas, use cotton...dye things with indigo? (Strip me of my yellowcake, but please don't take away my indigo!)

Apr 25, 2011, 18:59

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