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cyberpainter
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Re: I LIKE AMERICANS

lereostab wrote:
No, I don't care who blew up the towers, I didn't say I felt nothing about the event itself, as it was truly awful. Even if they were to find who really did it beyond a shadow of a doubt, it changes nothing.
Is vengeance the answer to acts of violence? I'm not convinced that it is, but that appears to be what the American government are doing with their interference in the Arabian nations.
How often have you travelled outside of the USA? (I don't mean to other western so called democratic nations, I mean further afield i.e. the Middle East, Africa,or India)when you are in other nations and countries the news is very different, who you choose to believe is up to you, all governments have a need to keep control of the people and the media is one of their most powerful tools.
Don't tell me I need to sit on one side of the fence or the other because I won't.
I love Britain but I don't love it's government or any of it's past governments, I love the country itself, you know the beaches the trees and wide open spaces and the everyday people who live in my road and neighbourhood.
To sum up, I was very disturbed at what happened to New York on that day and I felt sad and confused like a lot of people, but I will not take sides or swear alliegience to any political ideal because it's those ideals that kill thousands of people, I didn't mean to be offensive in my last post, I'm sorry, kind regards, Joe.



I kind of agree with some of what you write in this particular post. And I do think that in many people's minds and mentality, vengeance is what guides them. But outwardly at least, the excuse in the hunt for Al Queda is to try to stop them, by weakening them and cutting them off at the knees so to speak. Stopping them is important, as they attacked our country and make statements constantly that they will do it again. But that kind of enemy is very difficult if not impossible to stop. Thus American's paranoia. Bush's mentality was to go to war with "them" instead of trying to figure out the root cause in all it's complexities and subtitles and work with it from that side of the equation. That was beyond Bush and his cronies. It would have taken much greater minds. And the whole Iraq war was a farce as far as I'm concerned.

America has huge flaws, but I think other countries are equally bad in the way the rich do their best to control and undermine things, and the media is not as free as it may appear to be, and bigotry and class-ism is still rampant if maybe a little more of an undercurrent. So on the flip side of YOUR coin, you might want to have some skepticism of other countries pronouncements about America, and at least about how our shadowy CIA is willing to blow up our largest most symbolic (to the right wingers, the rich, as well as everyone else) structures.

Sep 09, 2011, 18:23


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Mu Mu
Mu Mu
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Re: I LIKE AMERICANS

Hey Joe,

How old are you and where do you live?

Sep 09, 2011, 21:10


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lereostab
lereostab
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My point about the media was to encourage the questioning of it regardless of which country it's in.
I am not on anyones side because I feel it's too complicated, I see human beings on all sides and would help anyone in need if I was able to, but not if it means directly harming others.
It's a bloodthirsty world we live in filled with greedy power mongers who will stop at nothing to get what they want, and it seems that whoever has the most money wins, at least temporarily, thanks for replying, Joe.

Sep 09, 2011, 21:24


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lereostab
lereostab
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Re: I LIKE AMERICANS

Why do you want to know?

Sep 09, 2011, 21:25


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GaryB2
GaryB2
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Re: I LIKE AMERICANS

Mu Mu wrote:
Hey Joe,

How old are you and where do you live?


I think it's time for another "introduce yourself" thread!!

Sep 09, 2011, 21:28


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hito
hito
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Re: I LIKE AMERICANS

Rael_ wrote:
lereostab wrote:
Because I wanted to.

This is hito's forum, he runs it and he makes the rules here. How dare you start a separate thread about something without his prior approval. You must follow hito's rules of forum etiquette always and forever. Remember, whatever you do doesn't matter, it's all about hito.




http://stereolab.co.uk/forum/stereolab/topic/3740/threaded/42723

Sep 12, 2011, 02:17


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Mu Mu
Mu Mu
2778 posts

Re: I LIKE AMERICANS

lereostab wrote:
Why do you want to know?


Well I feel so close to you, I keep getting such warm regards, I thought we might get to know each other better.

How old are you? Where do you live?

Sep 12, 2011, 14:31


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Squirrel M. Nutter
890 posts

Re: I LIKE AMERICANS

You still haven't gotten over it, hito? You poor dummy...

Sep 12, 2011, 15:47


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hito
hito
1745 posts

Re: I LIKE AMERICANS

Squirrel M. Nutter wrote:
You still haven't gotten over it, hito? You poor dummy...


http://stereolab.co.uk/forum/stereolab/topic/3740/threaded/42723

Sep 12, 2011, 20:54


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Squirrel M. Nutter
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Re: I LIKE AMERICANS

It's ok, shito. No one takes you as seriously as you take yourself, and no one is going to change their forum behavior based on you, and no one wants, needs, or cares about your approval. So carry on, little man.

Sep 12, 2011, 20:57

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