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vodka5
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i can be logical, too logical it seems when in company.
but all that is subject to change now. as hopfully attitudes change.
and i can get bullshit cycicism and conspiracy paranoia finally out of my head.
like what i had learned.
there can be hope for earht if we try.
i think its sick that america spends money on the wrong things.

Oct 25, 2011, 12:43


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Dara
Dara
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Kazak wrote:
Right, the time to act came and went with a whimper. We('re?) done.


Well I am inclined to agree with that on the whole. The balance of power in the world is dependent on a headlong rush into an ecological apocalypse. This is not new however, and even though there have been amazing improvements since the industrial revolution it is still politically and socio-economically irreversible.

Even if it were not too late already, there would have to be a fundamental change in the balance of world power. All humanity would have to turn swords into ploughshares, and not just reduce world hunger, poverty and homelessness - but completely eradicate it. We would have to guarantee clean water and adequate nutrition as an inalienable human right to the whole world to be even close to the right to call humanity 'civilisation'.

It is against human nature to do this. We are essentially territorial creatures with a pack mentality - this is in our DNA and will never change. Our only hope is to survive long enough for evolution to tick along the scale of development enough for these things to be resolved in human existence. There is good evidence to say that this has happened along the path before - and there is a slight possibility that it can happen again in the next 25 - 50 thousand years ('an instant 0' in the timeline of the evolutionary clock).

Oct 25, 2011, 13:00


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Dara
Dara
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vodka5 wrote:
i think its sick that america spends money on the wrong things.


for example....








(yes, come on - you can do it...)

Oct 25, 2011, 13:08


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vodka5
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i thoink if people don care about climate change anymore... well its obvious what would be the outcome. bad.

Oct 25, 2011, 14:10


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Dara
Dara
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Dara wrote:









(yes, come on - you can do it...)






why am I not surprised that you couldn't?

Oct 25, 2011, 14:12


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vodka5
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i dont know.
they avoid fixing the climate change problem
say that it dont matter.
fund war on arab nations

i know thats cleche

cant wait 'till the next hollywood block buster comes out!

Oct 25, 2011, 14:19


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Dara
Dara
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vodka5 wrote:
i dont know.
they avoid fixing the climate change problem
say that it dont matter.
fund war on arab nations

i know thats cleche

cant wait 'till the next hollywood block buster comes out!



Well done! there you are you see - you can make SOME sense when you concentrate, even though it is simplistic, in terrible english and pathetically trite...

Oct 25, 2011, 14:27


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Dara
Dara
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Dara wrote:
swords into ploughshares



too little too late methinks - but it is at least a gesture:

http://news.yahoo.com/uss-most-powerful-nuclear-bomb-being-dismantled-071325260.html

Oct 25, 2011, 14:35


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vodka5
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english was a poor subject for me in school. but thats another cleche.. about me. not that the other one was. i know that post was a bit trite. but this is just a web forum. at least i'm not trying to be a lunatic, like that girl.. whats her name, anymore.

Oct 25, 2011, 14:43


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Dara
Dara
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vodka5 wrote:
at least i'm not trying to be a lunatic, like that girl.. whats her name, anymore.


valley girl?

Oct 25, 2011, 14:45

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