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Re: Woody Allen

Also, Previn was born in 1970. The scandal took place in 1992, which would make her 22.

Feb 10, 2009, 14:27


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cyberpainter wrote:
There are plenty of men with much younger women, as sexism in our society dictates that is ok, vs. women with younger men is not as ok.



I don't think it's sexism. I think it's our society's preoccupation with procreation. An older man with a younger woman can produce a baby, not vice versa.

Feb 10, 2009, 14:59


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Left Boob Oscillator wrote:
cyberpainter wrote:
There are plenty of men with much younger women, as sexism in our society dictates that is ok, vs. women with younger men is not as ok.



I don't think it's sexism. I think it's our society's preoccupation with procreation. An older man with a younger woman can produce a baby, not vice versa.

Well you're entitled to your opinion, but I completely disagree. Procreation might be one reason, but most often, the much older man does not want the young woman for that reason. It's in our history of films, media of all sorts, and society's perception of the ideal woman. That's the preoccupation. As opposed to an older woman who is not seen as physically desirable. It's called a double standard, and it still exists.

Whether or not a couple with a huge distance in age is a good idea is besides the point. There are rational reasons why one might not choose someone too far out of your age range. Just thinking ahead 20-30 years down the road can influence many people's decisions about that. But the difference in how the older woman with younger man are looked at by society still is not the same as the other way around.

Feb 11, 2009, 04:26


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Well, can I be the first to say here that I don't like him. He is self absorbed, neurotic and lecherous. He whinges his way through films (whether he is the lead character or an actor plays him) in a way that only upper class people can.
Believe me, I have tried to watch him objectively a number of times over the years looking at all eras and I just can't be bothered watching the diary of a spoilt man whose biggest problems include dumping beautiful younger women.

Feb 11, 2009, 09:23


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cyberpainter wrote:
Well you're entitled to your opinion, but I completely disagree. Procreation might be one reason, but most often, the much older man does not want the young woman for that reason. It's in our history of films, media of all sorts, and society's perception of the ideal woman. That's the preoccupation. As opposed to an older woman who is not seen as physically desirable. It's called a double standard, and it still exists.

Whether or not a couple with a huge distance in age is a good idea is besides the point. There are rational reasons why one might not choose someone too far out of your age range. Just thinking ahead 20-30 years down the road can influence many people's decisions about that. But the difference in how the older woman with younger man are looked at by society still is not the same as the other way around.


Again, you are entitled to YOUR opinion, but I think men are probably unconsciously attracted to the baby-makers whether they actually want babies or not--not to mention that society encourages unions where baby-making is possible. It's natural and instinctual. It's not some overblown conspiracy.

And I think that we should choose our partners based on love, not rational reasons.

Feb 11, 2009, 14:08


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hito wrote:
Well, can I be the first to say here that I don't like him. He is self absorbed, neurotic and lecherous. He whinges his way through films (whether he is the lead character or an actor plays him) in a way that only upper class people can.
Believe me, I have tried to watch him objectively a number of times over the years looking at all eras and I just can't be bothered watching the diary of a spoilt man whose biggest problems include dumping beautiful younger women.


Your post made me laugh inside like I do when I watch a Woody Allen film.

Feb 11, 2009, 14:09


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mikka000 wrote:
does anyone like almodovar?


Yes, I like Almod?var.

Feb 11, 2009, 14:21


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Left Boob Oscillator wrote:
cyberpainter wrote:
Well you're entitled to your opinion, but I completely disagree. Procreation might be one reason, but most often, the much older man does not want the young woman for that reason. It's in our history of films, media of all sorts, and society's perception of the ideal woman. That's the preoccupation. As opposed to an older woman who is not seen as physically desirable. It's called a double standard, and it still exists.

Whether or not a couple with a huge distance in age is a good idea is besides the point. There are rational reasons why one might not choose someone too far out of your age range. Just thinking ahead 20-30 years down the road can influence many people's decisions about that. But the difference in how the older woman with younger man are looked at by society still is not the same as the other way around.


Again, you are entitled to YOUR opinion, but I think men are probably unconsciously attracted to the baby-makers whether they actually want babies or not--not to mention that society encourages unions where baby-making is possible. It's natural and instinctual. It's not some overblown conspiracy.

And I think that we should choose our partners based on love, not rational reasons.


Saying they just unconsciously are attracted to baby makers, just doesn't wash in my opinion. There's just way too much porn in the world for that argument to have much validity. And it's besides the point anyway, it's the perception that it's ok for men, but not for women that is the reason for my argument. It's not a conspiracy, it's a societal problem with perception and an ingrained sexism that hasn't completely been overcome yet. I just don't like the double standard giving men a green light and older women a red light to dating someone much younger. Older women still have to deal with some sexism and stereotypes in our society.

Feb 11, 2009, 17:24


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cybele
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You both have valid points, but Soon Yi thing was kind of creepy. Junxtapose not only the age difference but the fact that she was his stepdaughter and you have Woody not keeping his woody in the right place.

Forget about society and the sub-conscious attraction to fertility in young women--gentlemen must draw the line somewhere. If we didn't, then incest would not only be a societal taboo, but we'd be walking around like a bunch of deformed Habsburgs in Ted Nugent attire.

Cybele

Feb 11, 2009, 18:58


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cyberpainter wrote:


Saying they just unconsciously are attracted to baby makers, just doesn't wash in my opinion. There's just way too much porn in the world for that argument to have much validity. And it's besides the point anyway, it's the perception that it's ok for men, but not for women that is the reason for my argument. It's not a conspiracy, it's a societal problem with perception and an ingrained sexism that hasn't completely been overcome yet. I just don't like the double standard giving men a green light and older women a red light to dating someone much younger. Older women still have to deal with some sexism and stereotypes in our society.


There are adult magazines with pictures of older women in them, too. In fact, there are magazines for just about whatever you might like. So, I don't think that men are attracted to young women because they see them in magazines. For instance, if I liked older, fat women, I don't think I would change my mind because I saw lots of young, skinny ones in magazines. What we see doesn't change our innate preference. And the innate drive of mankind is to procreate.

I do think there is an unhealthy obsession with youth and being skinny in the fashion world, though, which leads to young women becoming anorexic. But that is a different topic.

Feb 11, 2009, 19:02

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