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lereostab
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Re: God

I take it then that you can't explain to me how to achieve oneness with God by any other path, if that's the case why would you be opposed to a clearly explained path that you have not even tried?

Jan 13, 2013, 01:46


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lereostab
lereostab
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OK, I guess you aren't going to give me an answer, I'm off to bed now, goodnight and God bless you, Joe

Jan 13, 2013, 02:16


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cyberpainter
cyberpainter
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You could start by checking out this relatively unbiased website. If a particular religion interests you, delve in. You don't need to of course, because you're happy with your own religion. However it might help you in discourse with others if you understood there are many paths to god.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/

Jan 13, 2013, 02:35


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lereostab
lereostab
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To say that there are many paths to God then surely you need to know who God is and where he is, because to undertake any journey you must know where you are going and that the place you are going to is real and exists, otherwise the journey is pointless.
Why would God hide himself and make it really difficult to find your way to him?
He has given really clear instructions on how to come to him that the simplest person can understand easily.
Christians are hated because they are saying that God has revealed himself to us in the form of the man Jesus Christ and that there is no other way to know God outside of Christ, all other ways are deception and lies, this is also why Jesus was hated and murdered, no other religion states so clearly and with such brutal honesty the way to find God and what is wrong with the world, this approach wins nothing in the popularity stakes because it sounds offensive to the human mind, but why would God not challenge us? other religions (with the exception of Islam) try to be very nice and inoffensive so people are naturally attracted to these supposedly easier ways, but even psychologists will tell you that unless we are challenged about our behaviour and attitudes they never change.
Trying to get to know God without the person of Jesus Christ is a bottomless chasm, but again I say if anyone knows of some other way to enter in to a personal and loving relationship with God then let me know.
Because he loves us God has not hidden himself behind mystical rituals that only the chosen ones can perform, he has not insisted that we be really good people(if we had to be good all the time I would be doomed) he simply says to admit that we need him, swallow your pride and say you're sorry to God and you'll be forgiven all your sin and you'll know him then for the powerful and loving creator that he really is, what have you got to lose? if you do it earnestly from your heart you will know the truth and be set free from the things that bind you in this life.
Jesus really does love you, Joe

Jan 14, 2013, 06:44


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cyberpainter
cyberpainter
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lereostab wrote:
To say that there are many paths to God then surely you need to know who God is and where he is, because to undertake any journey you must know where you are going and that the place you are going to is real and exists, otherwise the journey is pointless.
Why would God hide himself and make it really difficult to find your way to him?
He has given really clear instructions on how to come to him that the simplest person can understand easily.
Christians are hated because they are saying that God has revealed himself to us in the form of the man Jesus Christ and that there is no other way to know God outside of Christ, all other ways are deception and lies, this is also why Jesus was hated and murdered, no other religion states so clearly and with such brutal honesty the way to find God and what is wrong with the world, this approach wins nothing in the popularity stakes because it sounds offensive to the human mind, but why would God not challenge us? other religions (with the exception of Islam) try to be very nice and inoffensive so people are naturally attracted to these supposedly easier ways, but even psychologists will tell you that unless we are challenged about our behaviour and attitudes they never change.
Trying to get to know God without the person of Jesus Christ is a bottomless chasm, but again I say if anyone knows of some other way to enter in to a personal and loving relationship with God then let me know.
Because he loves us God has not hidden himself behind mystical rituals that only the chosen ones can perform, he has not insisted that we be really good people(if we had to be good all the time I would be doomed) he simply says to admit that we need him, swallow your pride and say you're sorry to God and you'll be forgiven all your sin and you'll know him then for the powerful and loving creator that he really is, what have you got to lose? if you do it earnestly from your heart you will know the truth and be set free from the things that bind you in this life.
Jesus really does love you, Joe



First of all I'm trying to have a philosophical discussion with you, not a discussion about me personally being "saved".

Secondly, no one is "hating" Christians in this discussion. But your religious interpretations are simplistic, a bit insulting and vaguely bigoted toward other religions, and naive. It's not Christianity, it's you. So I'm done here. I'm not angry about anything, just that there is no movement in either direction, so we might as well stop.

Jan 14, 2013, 07:37


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revox
revox
800 posts

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lereostab wrote:
I take it then that you can't explain to me how to achieve oneness with God by any other path ...


Masturbation is pretty good but then, like incarceration, there are many forms of it.

Jan 14, 2013, 11:16


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s_lush_s
s_lush_s
7383 posts

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God is cool. I like this.

Jan 14, 2013, 20:20


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s_lush_s
s_lush_s
7383 posts

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101 wrote:
I love the whole idea of a tea ceremony. There's this text that's maybe 12,000 years old that describes all the steps and how to properly appreciate each of the 20 odd objects that are required for a proper tea ceremony.


fascinating. That will set me back some yen.

Jan 14, 2013, 20:31


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lereostab
lereostab
984 posts

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OK, if you want to stop, then we'll stop, God bless you.

Jan 14, 2013, 21:30


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101
484 posts

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lereostab wrote:
I think you're asking about what the world terms 'radical' stuff


I like how you put it, I agree. It seems to be considered radical to think that we should be trying to consume less, not more. We stopped going to church and replaced it with Sunday at the mall. The church of economic growth or something, it's heresy to challenge it. Get rid of the military and the fossil fuel industry, slowly slowly catch the monkey. How's that for radical

Jan 16, 2013, 02:01

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